Dirtbag and sick part of a sick thing by @bettsfic
a tête-bêche binding- two fics in one volume, back to back, so both covers are front covers. read one, flip it over to get the other. duo pepperoni (green/red shift) bookcloth, paste papers i made on the cover, green htv titles. half-letter, 105k words total, 400 pages.
directors cut on dirtbag, im begging
i don’t know what i was on when i wrote dirtbag but i’d kill to have it back.
initially i didn’t plan to write anything for hellcheer because, yk, 3 minutes of on screen interaction and i don’t actually like stranger things. but i got an ask about if i would ever write for them, and that got me Thinking* and then i slipped into some kind of fugue state where i wrote sick part of a sick thing across 8 days.
if you ever want me to write for your ship, send me an ask asking what i WOULD write for them (assuming i know canon), and i may say i dunno or i may write a 50k multichap
sick thing was not satisfying to write on a craft level because i relied heavily on the same cheap moves stranger things employs to create conflict, namely totally flat antagonists that exist only to propel the protagonist into action.
and so after i wrote sick thing, i thought i would try the exact opposite, a fic that takes place over a long time where every character has some degree of nuance.
and that challenge was…challenging. i’ve never worked harder on a fic, but it was worth it i think for what i learned in the process of writing it. i think it made my characters stronger and my story structures more complicated and interesting. it reframed my perspective of developing tension through context rather than chronology.
i re-read it recently and it made me really sad because i don’t think some of the things i admire about it can ever be replicated. i’d love to be able to put that degree of loneliness and longing in an original work, but i’ve tried and i seem to lose something along the way.
i remember while i was posting it being very happy about the response, because there weren’t a whole lot of people reading it, but the people who were reading it really seemed to be engaging with it. it’s one thing when people enjoy a story, but it’s another when they allow the story to move them. i got a lot of really insightful asks and comments. so it was hard to write and it was a huge struggle, and there’s at least one chapter that i re-wrote like 5 times, but overall it was very rewarding.
So Organic Chemistry in general is *haunting* me in a good (but painful) sense. The line at the start: "Rex was with his girlfriend. His real girlfriend." The more the fic progresses, the more that statement takes on complexity and weight and... I can't even!
I have to reassess the possible intention behind that line in the context of the opening scene (Ahsoka to Anakin) and in a meta (you-the-writer to me-the-reader) sense, and in the changing context of *how and in what way* Ahsoka is an unreliable narrator. So yeah, I have been Pondering it and kind of re-evaluating it at the end of each new chapter!
Also, Not If, When, has been lingering with me, kind of wondering about the characters and how they're all doing in the "present" of when she's recounting the story. That bit about the various foster kids and how Glo has felt kind of like the guest. Their whole dynamic and marriage, and how it seems to work but I get the feeling maybe Mike is happier because he's getting what he needs and Glo isn't sure she *wants* what she might need to be truly happy? Idk.
Anyway, sorry to hear you've had a crap week. I hope the next one is better.
ahsoka is a VERY unreliable narrator, and she’s growing and healing at a different rate and direction than rex is. (direction doesn’t mean “away” exactly. it’s more like rex thinks he’s moving in a straight line and ahsoka is bouncing all over the place like a pinball machine.)
also, re: not if, when: you know those periodic jumps into the future where we find out about the foster kids and that she’s become obsessed with cinnamon? well in earlier drafts, there *was* a present timeline, set 12ish years later, where gloria meets up with caleb at a business conference every year and they sleep together. if it were fic, i would have kept it because that was where the smut was going to happen, but when i finished the past timeline i decided not to keep the business conference parts of the jumps into the future.
but i was obsessed with the idea of an ongoing annual affair with a lot of history, and that became the premise of dirtbag!
thank you for the lovely ask @maple-clef!
Also them are together and having a dog 🏀🎸📣
🔪🔪🔪 в вк не репостить🔪🔪🔪
idk how you i call em carmunham lol
also!! R: Are there any writers (fanfic or otherwise) you consider an influence? and U: Share three of your favorite fic writers and why you like them so much.
R: Jeanette Winterson especailly her prose in Oranges Are Not The Only Fruit… I think she describes her narrative structure in the preface as kind of spiralling in on itself. Richard Siken. Hera Lindsay Bird especially her poem Pyramid Scheme there’s this one line about love being like punching the sun and it raining down gold coins.
U: @bettsfic dirtbag was deeply influential to me – it’s one of those ones that rides the line of original work and it’s so grim and fun and lush. @floggingink teen beat is so incredible and I’ve accepted so much of it as cannon. @uwusillygirl I love everything in the first one’s free series obviously, but outside of that I really enjoyed the weirdness of bedroom eyes it’s just so unsettling and the imagery is so saturated!
Hello! What are some of your hellcheer fic recs?
Hi! I had really good intentions for putting together a succinct list when I started responding to this, but I tripped and wrote a Hellcheer fanfic compendium instead, apparently.
This is a (non-exhaustive) list of completed Hellcheer fics that I love, and is the result of a two and a half hour trip down memory lane. If I’ve missed an author’s tumblr please let me know!
Some of these stories may contain themes/content/tropes that are not your jam. Please read their tags before jumping in!
So, without further ado, in no particular order:
- Never Seem to Find the Time by JuliaBrownen
- oh it’s not real (if you don’t feel it) by BeeLove
- where the streets have no name by @alltheseghosttowns
- more by 71degreesout
- aesthetic chills by @sloelimbs
- and the twain were casting dice by @the-reylo-void
- warm, sold things by @carry-the-sky
- Both Alike in Dignity by @astorytotellyourfriends
- the light, the heat by @cyraclove
- they’ll never know by hawkinshellfire
- graceland too (whatever she wants) by @cunnninghams
- Linger by CircusBones
- You’ve Got Nothing to Lose by @viharker
- reality & other highs by @chrissy-n-eddie
- Chrissy & Eddie’s Infinite Mixtape by @little-scribblers-heart
- you really got me now. by melodicvinyl
- don’t say yes, run away now by @blondiest
- i don’t know if i could ever go without (watermelon sugar high) by @cricketsatnight
- your turn to roll by mrsren
- Alive and Kicking by FrostedGemstones22
- put your lips close to mind, as long as they don’t touch by @percyjacksonfan3
- the answers seem so clear by agents_cxrter
- twenty-one rules by elanor_gamgee
- like a heartbeat drives you mad by redbelles
- Gateway Drug by oponn
- WAKE 86.9 by TheRookieKing412
- Hobbit Birthdays by PlotWeaver
- take a chance on me by WomanOf1000Faces
- mixtape by @ivy-eyed
- until you kill all my prints by silvermarie
- Tattooed on my Heart by VPD2396
- Camellia by @nevermorered
- The Third Date Rule by InvalidUser1D
- Loser Kid by @lokinightfury
- you are the music in me by fkevino73
- like hands that tick on a clock by @eddiemunsvn
- she’s so sweet with her get back stare by peterpan_in_neverland
- Ride the Sky by Deathinasmalltown
- Didn’t Mean to Scare You by its_kira
- Open Your Eyes by @natliecole
- Of Dio, Billy Joel, and Vandalism by @shroomystar
- For Whom the Bell Tolls by memequeen1127
- all the missing girls are hanging out without us by greatunironic
- haunted house with a picket fence by @wndasmaximoffs
- someone reaching back for me by @enoughtotemptme
- You make me the best kind of nervous, pretty sure you do that shit on purpose… by @phoenixwrites
- alexa, play “she bop” by cyndi lauper by @majicmarker
- she’s under me and i’m not stopping by @majicmarker
- she’s a hardcore candy-store give-me-some-more girl by @majicmarker
- you’ll need me now, i’ll teach you how by @majicmarker (honestly, anything by Maj, I am thinking of starting a fan club)
- Waiting on Satan’s Call by @broomclosetkink
- Duality by @broomclosetkink
- It’s different for girls by @adelaideelaine
- Tenderness by @adelaideelaine
- The shop around the corner by @adelaideelaine
- Red Light Green Light by @idontgettechnology
- You drew stars around my scars by @idontgettechnology
- The Devil’s Backbone by Maebe
- You Got Me? I Got You. by Maebe
- trailing stars behind us by @hearjessroar
- come on pretty baby (kiss me deadly) by @hearjessroar
- heavy metal hung from clotheslines by @hearjessroar
- preach electric to a microphone by @hearjessroar
- i was thursday’s child by @agentmmayy
- he’s got that special somethin’ by @agentmmayy
- if there’s nothing left for you here honey (then there’s nothing for me) by @agentmmayy
- Dirtbag by @bettsfic
- sick part of a sick thing by @bettsfic
- No One Like You by QuestionableCovariates
- Burden of Proof by QuestionableCovariates
Bonus! Some excellent series (which also largely contain completed stories):
- the ’first one’s free to get you hooked’ series by @uwusillygirl
- the ’man to man’ series by @bratanimus
- the ’mixtape’ series by @majicmarker
- the ’self-taught learner’ series by @adelaideelaine
- the ’five drunks & a cheerleader’ series by @phoenixwrites
- the ’lay beside me, under wicked sky’ series by @glitterslag
hi i am not meant to be anywhere but a total ao3 mystery but it’s uwusillygirl who occasionally sits in the shadows of this site and i just wanted to tell you i fucking LOVED dirtbag. i still think about it all the time. i left a longer comment on the actual piece but understand if you’re not on there right now!! hope you’re well!!! <3
hello favorite hellcheer writer uwusillygirl!! i’m so glad you enjoyed dirtbag. i’m hoping to eventually write more hellcheer when i need a break from other things. also i’m excited to read your porno fic!!
whenever i finish one of your stories i always think of the gold standard of living & domestic bliss & pure JOY you wrote in 'like real people do' (one of my favs!) and after my 8 millionth reread of dirtbag i've decided this is what i imagine chrissy/eddie's happy future to look like it gives me EVERYTHING- local married couple still obsessed with each other and growing more batshit in love with each passing boring day + local man obsessed with pregnant wife representation we need in the world
oh jesus oh god eddie and horny pregnant chrissy. if it were a dirtbag sequel, jason would be the level-headed one being like, but guys we need to set up the nursery and plan a baby shower and– while chrissy and eddie won’t even come out of the bedroom. i am maybe possibly writing down this idea.
just wanted to let you know that i had to temporarily take u2's with or without you off my work out playlist (yes i exclusively listen to emotional ballads at the gym to force myself to feel an emotion other than dread) because every time i hear it i now think of dirtbag!eddie and chrissy and i feel pure genuine agony and suddenly i'm thousand-yard-staring in public
AHAHAHAHHAA i’m sorry to ruin such a banger for you, anon. conversely i’ve been listening to it on repeat to stew longer in the agonies.
I've been excited for "dirtbag" since you first started mentioning it on here and it has been everything I was looking forward to and more. Thank you for that beautiful ending. You executed the complicated nature of this story & these character so well, and all of the sadness and hard moments made growth and happiness in the end even sweeter. For selfish reasons I do hope you return to hellcheer, but even if you don't, thank you for this gift & I wish you the best of luck with your residency!
thank you, anon! i hope to circle back to hellcheer too! i’ve had so much fun writing it. i mean, dirtbag wasn’t exactly “fun” but it was definitely a great challenge!!
Loved Dirtbag - seriously phenomenal <3 Thank you so much for putting it into the world.
i’m so glad to hear it! thank you for reading!
the final chapter of dirtbag is posted! i know a lot of people were probably upset about the penultimate chapter but i hope the ending soothes the hurt.
thanks so much to everyone who stuck it out to the end! i really appreciate all the kindness and support i got on what really turned out to be a difficult fic.
Thank you so much for your response. That makes a lot of sense. Seeing Eddie slowly realize that the things he wants are worth fighting for because he is worth fighting for has been really special, and I just need this Chrissy to get everything she’s ever wanted because she’s really been put through the ringer. I gotta say I am obsessed with the fact that breeding kink was the straw that broke the camel’s back. She really said “fuck a baby into me” and he went you know what……… perhaps I will!!
yep!!! the transcendent nature of breeding kink
1] (different anon but) I guess I didn't realize that Chrissy or Eddie were satisfied or happy with the path their careers took, since Eddie is by self-admission dead inside for 364 days a year and is still living gig paycheck to paycheck, and Chrissy, well, I recognize myself projecting here since I worked at the Macy's makeup counter for a few years after college and let's just say it was neither lucrative or glamorous. So throughout the story I felt very “ok what do either of you have to lose
2] when both of you seem miserable with your current lives.” However with some further reflection I recognize what you mean about the safety they had in the lives they built, since Eddie had the freedom to live for himself and doesn’t have to commit to anything while I assume Chrissy lives very comfortably because of Jason’s money and has his support & something to do with herself. With all of that + how difficult change is when you’re set in a routine, it makes sense why neither really chased
3] or wanted anything else for a ten years. Apologies for the very wordy ask, your take on these characters in this work really made me think and be conflicted in the best way possible, and regardless of all of their individual mistakes and awful decisions, I have never been more sure of the fact that both of them deserve what will eventually become the happiest of endings and futures.
i think when you grow up in an unstable environment like chrissy and eddie did, your perspective of what success looks like is really distorted. eddie’s perspective of success was always dichotomous; he both believed he’d be super famous, but also that he’d amount to nothing. so he undershot the former and overshot the latter, landing him in this space where he’s at least doing the thing he loves, but not in the way he loves to do it. like sure he’s a well-respected musician and he can earn a living on what he’s doing, but he’s ready to let go of the dreams and fears he used to have in order to pursue the next chapter in his life, which in this case is a career change and a family.
chrissy, meanwhile, was raised in an affluent household with a rocky marriage, and then it all fell out from under her and her mother stopped being a mother to her. so she was left to raise herself basically. it set her so far back that from ages 14 to 19 she was struggling just to get some ground beneath her feet. she didn’t get to go to college, so she clung onto this thing she found she was good at (sales) and made a life of it. she’s so terrified of instability that for ten years she’s been as afraid to pursue eddie as eddie has been to pursue her. they’ve just been holding on to each other, biding their time even though it’s painful. i think it always hurts to know when you’re destined for something but the road there is long and difficult. it’s also hard when you meet the right person at the wrong time.
so yes they’re both miserable, but both of their lives are still leagues better than where they came from, and it’s hard to give that up. for a decade, both of them had to weigh risk versus reward. for chrissy, is the reward of being with eddie worth the risk of instability? for eddie, is the reward of being with chrissy worth the risk of learning what he fears is the truth, that he really isn’t and can never be good enough for her?
now they’re both at a point in their lives where the reward and risk have new context. chrissy’s life is unstable again by virtue of the news about laura, so there’s no reason to keep clinging to the life she’s built with jason. in fact she *can’t* keep living that life. meanwhile eddie has only recently had the hard-won realization that not only does he want a family with chrissy, he believes it’s what he deserves. he would have never gotten there without the friendship he’d built with laura.
thank you so much for your insightful ask! i really put a lot of thought into this story and i’m happy to be able to talk about it.
i hope you take this as a testament to your writing and characterization: i didn't think it was possible for me to dislike eddie munson as much as i do in dirtbag. as the story progressed he hung on by a progressively thinner thread through good faith, but at this point i have to admit it. it is so odd that i prefer jason—in dirtbag world and not as a romance, but overall (i can't say i grew fond laura though i appreciate the nuance you delivered for her character). i feel so protective of chrissy, who is not perfect yet in terms of her feelings she has openly laid her heart on the line time and time again only for eddie to dirtbag!eddie, so i can't blame her. my eddie frustration is real; i feel like max yelling "dump his ass!!" your story, and what a story it is, made me realize this level and this type of romantic angst is not for me to handle. i am still so intrigued to see how it ends. hope your trip goes well and your hand heals well!
thank you for your insight, anon!
i definitely agree eddie has made a lot of mistakes colored by the extremes of his own self-hatred, fear, and ambition, which have just now come down to reasonable levels in his 30s. his career as a musician has taught him he can be skilled in something and support himself without resorting to crime (like charlie) or a dead-end job (like wayne). laura has taught him he’s worthy of love. and chrissy starting to push the boundaries of their arrangement have helped him tackle his fears and doubts about their relationship now that he knows they’re finally on the same page.
so even though he’s done a lot of stupid things, i think if he’d gotten with chrissy any earlier they both would have been miserable together. eddie would have come to resent chrissy for her need to settle down when he wanted the opposite of that; chrissy wouldn’t have gotten the stability and support she was craving and which jason and a solid career could provide her. moreover, they’re both so comfortable in their lives; in a lot of ways both chrissy and eddie have been successful in everything they set out to do. and they’re just now realizing that that success isn’t necessarily sustainable, or what they really want from life. they both want a family now, and they only want that with each other.
now everything has aligned: eddie is ready to settle down, chrissy is realizing she misses home and that jason can’t give her everything she needs, and now something has come along to disrupt their lives and force them to reflect and make changes. it’s also given them both a sense of perspective they were lacking. it’s unfortunate that it’s such a tragedy, but only foundation-shattering news would have gotten them to uproot themselves.
(eddie doesn’t have access to this info, but jason is also going through some stuff. but don’t worry, the story will address that.)
thanks again for sharing your thoughts!